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	<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Favorite Programming Quotes 2009 &#171; Jasper Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-2225</link>
		<dc:creator>Favorite Programming Quotes 2009 &#171; Jasper Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not the messiah of languages though it attracts many messiah-figures and their fanboy prototypes. Renae Blair    I do believe I have post-traumatic Java syndrome. Renae Blair    The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Favorite Programming Quotes 2009</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-2222</link>
		<dc:creator>Favorite Programming Quotes 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not the messiah of languages though it attracts many messiah-figures and their fanboy prototypes. Renae Blair   I do believe I have post-traumatic Java syndrome. Renae Blair   The thesis [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not the messiah of languages though it attracts many messiah-figures and their fanboy prototypes. Renae Blair   I do believe I have post-traumatic Java syndrome. Renae Blair   The thesis [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby, Rails, Web2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;I guess Ruby is over: it Was Fun While it Lasted.&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-2028</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruby, Rails, Web2.0 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; &#8220;I guess Ruby is over: it Was Fun While it Lasted.&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 00:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is the original part of the rant, from the time when more &#8220;ruby/rails sucks&#8221; articles popped up in a quick succession, followed by a grandiose trollfest on various social sites, and eventually meta-ranting (my personal favorite). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is the original part of the rant, from the time when more &#8220;ruby/rails sucks&#8221; articles popped up in a quick succession, followed by a grandiose trollfest on various social sites, and eventually meta-ranting (my personal favorite). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One problem is that there are some people who like to rant and start rants. I saw this from a python guy. He didnt even have a comment field.

I hate stark rants without a comment field to reflect upon. Really makes me angry - if someone just rants, but is too afraid to have a comment field, what is the point of the rant? He doesnt want to listen to the opinion of others anyway, so why should we listen to his rants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem is that there are some people who like to rant and start rants. I saw this from a python guy. He didnt even have a comment field.</p>
<p>I hate stark rants without a comment field to reflect upon. Really makes me angry - if someone just rants, but is too afraid to have a comment field, what is the point of the rant? He doesnt want to listen to the opinion of others anyway, so why should we listen to his rants?</p>
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		<title>By: RYErnest</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>RYErnest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post u have here :D Added to my RSS reader</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post u have here <img src='http://www.renaebair.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> Added to my RSS reader</p>
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		<title>By: planetmcd</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>planetmcd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 05:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fun Post.  Thanks.</description>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rant less and program more. It's hard work, but it'll pay more in the end.</description>
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		<title>By: Winter</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-69</link>
		<dc:creator>Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;'But what I am so annoyed with are the reformed evangelicals that are all of a sudden declaring that “this shit ain’t cool no more” and expect everyone to throw up their hands and say “Oh wow great leader, you’re right. Let’s just go learn [Scala, Erlang, Clojure, Whatever].”'&lt;/i&gt;

This bit right here, especially.

I'm one of the early adopters and, well, while i appreciate the possibility that i could make a living off Ruby i'd rather not see it crushed by the people making it popular. The ones saying "we all need to move to Scala now!" probably picked up Ruby last month or two and will pick up a new language in another month or two--not that there's necessarily something wrong with that, as learning new languages is good for you. But it is wrong to learn them only because of trends.

Anyway, the "Next Big Language" (NBL) isn't Scala or Erlang or any of those, anyway. It's Javascript. But i kind of don't want it to be Javascript, even though i kind of like Javascript, because Ruby is better as far as i can tell. Sure, Javascript is nice in that it's everywhere thanks to it being the browser language... but...</description>
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<p>This bit right here, especially.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of the early adopters and, well, while i appreciate the possibility that i could make a living off Ruby i&#8217;d rather not see it crushed by the people making it popular. The ones saying &#8220;we all need to move to Scala now!&#8221; probably picked up Ruby last month or two and will pick up a new language in another month or two&#8211;not that there&#8217;s necessarily something wrong with that, as learning new languages is good for you. But it is wrong to learn them only because of trends.</p>
<p>Anyway, the &#8220;Next Big Language&#8221; (NBL) isn&#8217;t Scala or Erlang or any of those, anyway. It&#8217;s Javascript. But i kind of don&#8217;t want it to be Javascript, even though i kind of like Javascript, because Ruby is better as far as i can tell. Sure, Javascript is nice in that it&#8217;s everywhere thanks to it being the browser language&#8230; but&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Grant</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Grant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great perspective and great post. As someone who quite happy quietly working away in Rails, getting things done and staying out of the politics I never fully understand why people feel the need to rant so much about ruby/rails. But I appreciate their passion and you don't usually see passion where something significant isn't happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great perspective and great post. As someone who quite happy quietly working away in Rails, getting things done and staying out of the politics I never fully understand why people feel the need to rant so much about ruby/rails. But I appreciate their passion and you don&#8217;t usually see passion where something significant isn&#8217;t happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Sho</title>
		<link>http://www.renaebair.com/2008/11/24/the-ranting-rubyists/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Sho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am greatly interested in this "inorganic chicken" and its glorious promise of large, bouncy, succulent boobs for everyone.

I propose an immediate worldwide ban on all chicken tragically deficient in this miraculous boob-giving hormone forthwith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am greatly interested in this &#8220;inorganic chicken&#8221; and its glorious promise of large, bouncy, succulent boobs for everyone.</p>
<p>I propose an immediate worldwide ban on all chicken tragically deficient in this miraculous boob-giving hormone forthwith.</p>
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